Sometimes too many people think they are real friends with me, A few weeks back I did an album design for "friends" and soon they have their release party, but some days back he said to me that I maybe wont get in for free, because their guest performances also get in for free, and they are more important.
But without me they wouldnt even had their album done, i worked so long on the album, and then they started bitching.. but Now i get the album and I get in for free! But they know that I won't do it for cheap next time.
Depends on the situation but, generally avoid business with friends. If you're working together, a new level of diplomacy has to be exerted if one is not holding their own. If they're coming to you to design stuff, they might expect a discount. It can work sometimes ... sometimes.
I think it is a good way to begin since friends tend to be more trustfull when begining a business as long as the two parts know when to separate business and personal relationship.. I'm starting a little graphic design7fashion business with some friends and every technical thing is watched by some acounting and lawyer friends.. so as long as we don't get money crazy , we think is off to a good star and a nice oportunity to grow and eventually move on into different things...
depends on how you want to pursue it. if partners, i would not recommend, as being creative we love our spaces. with friends, doing business project wise, independently is the best way. this way you enjoy and maintain freedom and space.
It just seems as if so very much could fall apart from the risk of getting friends or even family involved, it really depends on the nature of whoever you're wanting to work with. A lot of the time these people get a hidden agenda in the works but I'm honestly not speaking from experience and just heeding the words of others
it depends from the friend! a good suggestion is always to talk things through, and with a friend is easier than with a person you don't know well. i'm in business with a friend with which i collaborate sometimes to make websites and i'm happy with it, it's a trust based relation so things work great. to be clear about the money part it's always good
mmm don't know but in freelances ALL friends loves your work that's for shure, but some of them think that they can get it for free!!! ... or almost free. (friends or family jobs) aren't good money-making bussines.
Never do that. As in ever. I'm serious. My dad has done business with FAMILY, not even friends, and they cheated the shit out him that we were to our necks in debt, and we haven't seen a cent from them since. And that was family. But friends too, and it's one thing he taught me: keep friends/family and business as far away as possible from each other. They expect favours, take things for granted because you're family of course.
i think family is worse because of what you said and because of existing dynamics that usually affect the business part too. with friends it might be different, but it always depends on how friends are
Friends are cheap. Stii vorba aia, frate ca frate, dar branza e pe bani. They're expecting you do to do it for free/cheap, and you expect them to pay you more just because they're your friends, even though it would not be fair!
Last night a friend contacted me to make a logo for his dad's construction company. I know he didn't even think of having to pay. I said that I will try in the next couple of days, but my motivation isn't strong enough.